[IR] Yūhi Kurenai

the first skill is like a tangle right ?

1. Meh, more holds. There are so many chars with holds / stuns and so on

2. low mana cost, I would scale it. Also, how does the effect stack? Each time you attack the % rises or something?

3. copy of pain's shinra tensei?

4. Thats a rather long duration during first levels

PS Didn't they want a Disabler / Nuker Kurenai?

eGloryKresh wrote:

the first skill is like a tangle right ?

Yes.

Westfield wrote:

1. Meh, more holds. There are so many chars with holds / stuns and so on

2. low mana cost, I would scale it. Also, how does the effect stack? Each time you attack the % rises or something?

3. copy of pain's shinra tensei?

4. Thats a rather long duration during first levels

PS Didn't they want a Disabler / Nuker Kurenai?

2. The damage amp stacks to 25% damage at level 4.

3. No... it is simply a spammable self-position nuke.

4. Correct. And the CD matches it.

The damage amp, combined with the spammable nuke gives you an ability to deal tremendous magic damage in an aoe.

Why would she have a nuke? Thats not her primary / secondary role

Westfield wrote:

Why would she have a nuke? Thats not her primary / secondary role

To give her some effectiveness as a support hero beyond casting debuffs. Giving a support hero no means to deal damage is severely gonna limit the situations they can be effective.

That sounds like forcing the role to me

Westfield wrote:

That sounds like forcing the role to me

And yet... it is not.

I can't really remember the MS numbers, but in this build Kurenai's MS is slow no? Like that of Asuma?

Her base move speed, as of right now is 290.

Isn't a 4.5 second hold rather high? I'm not used anymore to DotA/NWU numbers since I'm playing LoL now but it seems kinda high to me anyway. Maybe 4 at max?

Eh... I'll reduce it from 1.5 / 2.5 / 3.5 / 4.5 seconds to 1.5 / 2.0 / 2.5 / 3.0 seconds. I was originally inspired by Naga, but since it prevents attacking as well the change is probably necessary.