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Natsu Mod
Posts : 1274 Age : 33 Location : In This beautifull world XD!
| Subject: [SM]Juugo Fri Nov 19, 2010 10:29 pm | |
| Ok is juugo's turn, not sure with his second skill, but he needs a skill wich let him enter 1st, so thats why i make the second skill like that. Help me to balance him and not sure if i add on his ultimate the chakra cannons. Juugo Allias: Bipolar taka member. Role: Initiator/ Tank - Quote :
- Stats:
Range: 100(melee) Move speed: 295 Primary: strengh
str:24 + 2.6 Agi:15 + 1.9 int:13 + 1.5
Damage: 55 - 70/ Hit Points: 595/ Mana Points: 165 HP regen: 0.73/ MP regen: 0.57 Attack speed: 2.00/ Armor: 4.2 1st skill. - Quote :
- Piston-like ram arm.
Description: Juugo has changed his body into a number of forms during his appearances. At his debut, he changed his left arm into a piston-like ram to increase his punching power. Juugo's next attack would stun and deals strengh plus magic damage within the target radius.
Lvl 1. Next attack would stun by 1.5 seconds and deals strengh + 75 magic damage within the target radius. Last 5 seconds.
Lvl 2. Next attack would stun by 1.5 seconds and deals strengh + 125 magic damage within the target radius. Last 5 seconds.
Lvl 3. Next attack would stun by 1.5 seconds and deals strengh + 175 magic damage within the target radius. Last 5 seconds
Lvl 4. Next attack would stun by 1.5 seconds and deals strengh + 225 magic damage within the target radius. Last 5 seconds.
Mana Cost: 35/40/45/50 Cooldown: 14/12/10/8 Radius: 225/275/325/375 Cast Time: 0.10 Range: self 2nd skill. - Quote :
- Jet Booster Jump.
Description: Thanks to his curse seal juugo is not limited to one transformation, and can enter whatever form is best for the situation. He jumps and lands hitting the unit, deals increased damage based on his regular attack damage.
level 1 - deals 25 + 110% damage
level 2 - deals 40 + 120% damage
level 3 - deals 55 + 130% damage
level 4 - deals 60 + 140% damage
Note:
-Juugo lands behind the target.
Mana Cost: 90 in all levels Cooldown: 18/16/14/12 Radius: N/A Cast Time: 0.0 Range: 450/500/550/600 3rd skill. - Quote :
- Bipolar Will.
Because of his unstable mind he keeps switching from a calm to an aggressive personality. He gains bonus STR for 7 seconds when any ally hero (650 radius) or juugo takes some amount of damage. Max cap of 25 STR bonus.
Lvl 1. Each time they takes 50 of damage, gains 1 point of strengh.
Lvl 2. Each time they takes 40 of damage, gains 2 points of strengh.
Lvl 3. Each time they takes 30 of damage, gains 3 points of strengh.
Lvl 4. Each time they takes 20 of damage, gains 4 points of strengh.
Mana Cost: N/A Cooldown: N/A Radius: 650 Cast Time: 0.0 Range: N/A 4th skill. - Quote :
- Curse seal level 2 form.
Description: Jugo gains a massive power boost, but loses his mind to his murderous side. As with all cursed seal transformations, Jugo's skin turns dark, with black sclera in the eyes. Gives him Chakra Cannons.
Lvl 1. Deals 300 of damage.
Lvl 2. Deals 400 of damage.
Lvl 3. Deals 500 of damage.
Note:
-The skill have 1 second delay.
Mana Cost: 150 all levels. Cooldown: 120 all levels Radius: 250 Cast Time: 0.0 Range: 1200 Synenergy table:Change Log:-Nerfed maximun from 40 to 25, so juugo only woul obtain 475 hp when gain all the points. -Edit skill 2 (Thanks kovak). -changed skill 4 to a nuke with 1 second delay, so if he gets stunned he would throw the nuke anyway. (Thanks Again Kovak). -Changed skill 3 now he could be called tank.
Last edited by Natsu on Mon Nov 22, 2010 11:44 pm; edited 11 times in total | |
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Oh^La^La Chuunin
Posts : 313 Age : 32 Location : Hell
| Subject: Re: [SM]Juugo Fri Nov 19, 2010 10:35 pm | |
| i like the 1st and 2nd and 4th skills i think the third skill would make him overpowered | |
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Natsu Mod
Posts : 1274 Age : 33 Location : In This beautifull world XD!
| Subject: Re: [SM]Juugo Fri Nov 19, 2010 10:38 pm | |
| That skill make him tank but i can nerf it and put maximun 30 what ya think. | |
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Oh^La^La Chuunin
Posts : 313 Age : 32 Location : Hell
| Subject: Re: [SM]Juugo Fri Nov 19, 2010 10:39 pm | |
| - Natsu wrote:
- That skill make him tank but i can nerf it and put maximun 30 what ya think.
yea if there is limit he will be perfect hero | |
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TruNite Student
Posts : 65 Age : 32 Location : Québec
| Subject: Re: [SM]Juugo Fri Nov 19, 2010 10:42 pm | |
| Nice! Beastie, tank HERO!! I'm lovin' it! great job! I like all the spells, but mostly the 3rd one. Woul make him a great tanker with all the strength he could gain. He would be stronger than Hidan in NvB
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Natsu Mod
Posts : 1274 Age : 33 Location : In This beautifull world XD!
| Subject: Re: [SM]Juugo Fri Nov 19, 2010 10:43 pm | |
| - Quote :
- That skill make him tank but i can nerf it and put maximun 30 what ya think.
Read the 3rd skill it says 4 maximun str, if i dont put a limit my juugo will become to imba XD; 40 str give 760 HP, 30 str gives 570 HP. i need more C&C before changing somethings. Edit: Trunite explain what you like it cuz if dont eol comes and can erase your post XD. | |
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TruNite Student
Posts : 65 Age : 32 Location : Québec
| Subject: Re: [SM]Juugo Fri Nov 19, 2010 10:47 pm | |
| - Natsu wrote:
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- Quote :
- That skill make him tank but i can nerf it and put maximun 30 what ya think.
Read the 3rd skill it says 4 maximun str, if i dont put a limit my juugo will become to imba XD; 40 str give 760 HP, 30 str gives 570 HP.
i need more C&C before changing somethings.
Edit: Trunite explain what you like it cuz if dont eol comes and can erase your post XD. You really have to set a limit or else he will be a banned char lol | |
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Natsu Mod
Posts : 1274 Age : 33 Location : In This beautifull world XD!
| Subject: Re: [SM]Juugo Fri Nov 19, 2010 10:52 pm | |
| I going to quote myself cuz nobody is reading this part. - Quote :
- Each time Juugo takes some damage gains points of strengh maximun of 40.
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Oh^La^La Chuunin
Posts : 313 Age : 32 Location : Hell
| Subject: Re: [SM]Juugo Fri Nov 19, 2010 10:55 pm | |
| - Natsu wrote:
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- Quote :
- That skill make him tank but i can nerf it and put maximun 30 what ya think.
Read the 3rd skill it says 4 maximun str, if i dont put a limit my juugo will become to imba XD; 40 str give 760 HP, 30 str gives 570 HP.
i need more C&C before changing somethings.
Edit: Trunite explain what you like it cuz if dont eol comes and can erase your post XD. 40 alot let me explain if it is 40 str that mean 760 hp + 450 hp from ulti that mean he get 1210 hp and if he is lvl 18 his normal hp will be 1925 so with his 3rd skill and ulti he gets 3135 and 30 def from ulti too lol without any items that sure is overpowered natsu with hp and def who can kill him | |
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Natsu Mod
Posts : 1274 Age : 33 Location : In This beautifull world XD!
| Subject: Re: [SM]Juugo Fri Nov 19, 2010 11:00 pm | |
| i told that cuz nobady tell me nerf the maximun str every ones think that the skill have no limit str buy yeah ok i will nerf the maximun str to 30 or 20. | |
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Eol Admin
Posts : 1009 Location : Dark side of the Force
| Subject: Re: [SM]Juugo Fri Nov 19, 2010 11:04 pm | |
| you can set up to 40 str but add time, like - Quote :
- Special body.
Description:Jugo body naturally produces an enzyme that triggers a state where he cannot be controlled. Each time Juugo takes some damage gains points of strengh maximun of 40.
Lvl 1. Each time he takes 50 of damage, gains 0.5 point of strengh.
Lvl 2. Each time he takes 40 of damage, gains 1.0 points of strengh.
Lvl 3. Each time he takes 30 of damage, gains 1.5 points of strengh.
Lvl 4. Each time he takes 20 of damage, gains 2.0 points of strengh.
LAST 10 SECONDS
Mana Cost: N/A Cooldown: N/A Radius: N/A Cast Time: 0.0 Range: N/A | |
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Oh^La^La Chuunin
Posts : 313 Age : 32 Location : Hell
| Subject: Re: [SM]Juugo Fri Nov 19, 2010 11:04 pm | |
| - Natsu wrote:
- i told that cuz nobady tell me nerf the maximun str every ones think that the skill have no limit str buy yeah ok i will nerf the maximun str to 30 or 20.
you better make it 25 limit | |
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Natsu Mod
Posts : 1274 Age : 33 Location : In This beautifull world XD!
| Subject: Re: [SM]Juugo Fri Nov 19, 2010 11:22 pm | |
| Ok changed now 25 limit str and the skill last long 10 seconds so when the enemy stop hitting you, juugo stay with the buff for 10 seconds. | |
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Oh^La^La Chuunin
Posts : 313 Age : 32 Location : Hell
| Subject: Re: [SM]Juugo Fri Nov 19, 2010 11:25 pm | |
| good job but i think you should reduse the time limit to 5 second too
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Natsu Mod
Posts : 1274 Age : 33 Location : In This beautifull world XD!
| Subject: Re: [SM]Juugo Fri Nov 19, 2010 11:33 pm | |
| Not to sure of reduce it, 1st more C&C from other people. | |
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Levi Student
Posts : 77 Location : New York
| Subject: Re: [SM]Juugo Fri Nov 19, 2010 11:38 pm | |
| Overall, a decent tank hero, although 4 his ulti. i think u should throw in spell immunity to the mix.
-Levi | |
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Natsu Mod
Posts : 1274 Age : 33 Location : In This beautifull world XD!
| Subject: Re: [SM]Juugo Sat Nov 20, 2010 12:10 am | |
| - Levi wrote:
- Overall, a decent tank hero, although 4 his ulti. i think u should throw in spell immunity to the mix.
-Levi that would turn skill into a survival skill and he is suppose to tank everything with his high HP i think i going to reduce to seven seconds the 3rd skill. | |
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Oh^La^La Chuunin
Posts : 313 Age : 32 Location : Hell
| Subject: Re: [SM]Juugo Sat Nov 20, 2010 12:18 am | |
| - Natsu wrote:
- Levi wrote:
- Overall, a decent tank hero, although 4 his ulti. i think u should throw in spell immunity to the mix.
-Levi that would turn skill into a survival skill and he is suppose to tank everything with his high HP i think i going to reduce to seven seconds the 3rd skill. that would make him blanced i think untill the test (off topic) can you please tell eol to pm me i send him 2 msgs and he didn't answer or he can add my yahoo to his msn ahmed_1_elgamed@yahoo.com | |
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Natsu Mod
Posts : 1274 Age : 33 Location : In This beautifull world XD!
| Subject: Re: [SM]Juugo Sat Nov 20, 2010 12:25 am | |
| - Oh^La^La wrote:
- Natsu wrote:
- Levi wrote:
- Overall, a decent tank hero, although 4 his ulti. i think u should throw in spell immunity to the mix.
-Levi that would turn skill into a survival skill and he is suppose to tank everything with his high HP i think i going to reduce to seven seconds the 3rd skill. that would make him blanced i think untill the test
(off topic) can you please tell eol to pm me i send him 2 msgs and he didn't answer or he can add my yahoo to his msn
ahmed_1_elgamed@yahoo.com if i put spell inmunity when my team mates enter after me they would be target with the spells, so the point of not givin him spell inmunity is cuz i want juugo to tank all the spell damage before his team mates enter in the clash. | |
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Dbr_kovak NWU Staff
Posts : 176 Age : 34 Location : Brazil, Rio de Janeiro
| Subject: Re: [SM]Juugo Sat Nov 20, 2010 12:42 am | |
| decrease the stun duration of 1st skill to 1.5 in all levels change 2nd skill to something like this: - Quote :
he jumps and lands hitting the unit. deals increased damage based on his regular attack damage.
level 1 - deals 25 + 110% damage
level 2 - deals 40 + 120% damage
level 3 - deals 55 + 130% damage
level 4 - deals 60 + 140% damage
Note:
-Juugo lands behind the target.
Mana Cost: 90 in all levels Cooldown: 18/16/14/12 Radius: N/A Cast Time: 0.0 Range: 450/500/550/600
3rd skill looks fine for me...not what i'd use to him, but works with 1st skill and will work with my 2nd skill modification. change 4th skill to a nuke, that cannon shit fits. | |
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Natsu Mod
Posts : 1274 Age : 33 Location : In This beautifull world XD!
| Subject: Re: [SM]Juugo Sat Nov 20, 2010 1:03 am | |
| - kovak wrote:
- decrease the stun duration of 1st skill to 1.5 in all levels
change 2nd skill to something like this: - Quote :
he jumps and lands hitting the unit. deals increased damage based on his regular attack damage.
level 1 - deals 25 + 110% damage
level 2 - deals 40 + 120% damage
level 3 - deals 55 + 130% damage
level 4 - deals 60 + 140% damage
Note:
-Juugo lands behind the target.
Mana Cost: 90 in all levels Cooldown: 18/16/14/12 Radius: N/A Cast Time: 0.0 Range: 450/500/550/600
3rd skill looks fine for me...not what i'd use to him, but works with 1st skill and will work with my 2nd skill modification.
change 4th skill to a nuke, that cannon shit fits. Ok Kovak i edit the 2nd skill and changed the ult to a simple nuke. | |
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Amphi Student
Posts : 84 Age : 30
| Subject: Re: [SM]Juugo Sat Nov 20, 2010 3:36 am | |
| Obviously it's pointless to make heroes when you have no idea what new version is like and I can't compare him to anything but at a glance, he seems very imba... 3rd skill is basically chouji's ulti with a 10 second cast time, anyway ;-o | |
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Natsu Mod
Posts : 1274 Age : 33 Location : In This beautifull world XD!
| Subject: Re: [SM]Juugo Sat Nov 20, 2010 4:16 am | |
| - Amphi wrote:
- Obviously it's pointless to make heroes when you have no idea what new version is like and I can't compare him to anything but at a glance, he seems very imba... 3rd skill is basically chouji's ulti with a 10 second cast time, anyway ;-o
My men the thing that you dont know is that I'm a beta tester so i know the changes i can suggest heros if i want, so i dont see the point on the first part of your comment. And choujis ult gives him a boost of str, the diference with my 3rd is every time he takes some damage he gains point of str so he can tank easy and casting time is one thing and duration is another thing. P.S: I cant tell you Trunite is a surprice. | |
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TruNite Student
Posts : 65 Age : 32 Location : Québec
| Subject: Re: [SM]Juugo Sun Nov 21, 2010 4:41 pm | |
| - Natsu wrote:
- Amphi wrote:
- Obviously it's pointless to make heroes when you have no idea what new version is like and I can't compare him to anything but at a glance, he seems very imba... 3rd skill is basically chouji's ulti with a 10 second cast time, anyway ;-o
My men the thing that you dont know is that I'm a beta tester so i know the changes i can suggest heros if i want, so i dont see the point on the first part of your comment. And choujis ult gives him a boost of str, the diference with my 3rd is every time he takes some damage he gains point of str so he can tank easy and casting time is one thing and duration is another thing.
P.S: I cant tell you Trunite is a surprice. In other words...it looks a little bit like Hidan's passive spell in NvB. But don't worry i really like your choice of spells and I also trust you since you're part of the Beta testing. I know you will make awsome heroes | |
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Cut Chemist NWU Staff
Posts : 984
| Subject: Re: [SM]Juugo Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:55 pm | |
| Role: He's a ganker/nuker, more than an initiator. Stats: They're okay. My changes: I mostly made him more of an initiator. The balancing will come from making him mana dependent, and lowering his agility to reduce his chance to semi-carry. Skill 1: It's fine, for the most part. Numbers need changing...especially since it's a stun. - Spoiler:
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Pulverizing Piston Flavor Text: Juugo transforms his arm into a powerful piston. Juugo's next attack would stun and deals strength plus magic damage within the target radius. Spell Type: Self-Buff Targets: Self
Mana Cost: 40/45/50/55 Cooldown: 16/14/12/10 seconds Radius: N/A Range: Self Cast Time: 0.10 seconds Type: Spell Required Level:1/3/5/7/
Activation: Upon activation Juugo gains the buff Piston-Arm for 5 seconds.
Piston-Arm Juugo's next attack deals Strength + 75/125/175/225 spell damage, stuns enemy units for 1.5 seconds, to enemy units within a radius of 300.
Skill 2: Not really sure if I like this skill much. - Spoiler:
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Jolting Jump Flavor Text: Juugo jumps, then lands, hitting the target unit. Deals increased damage based on his regular attack damage. Spell Type: Single Target Targets: Enemy Units
Mana Cost: 90 Cooldown: 18/16/14/12 Radius: N/A Range: 400/500/600/700 Cast Time: 0.10 seconds Type:Spell Required Level: 1/3/5/7
Activation: Juugo leaps toward target unit, landing behind them, and deals 25/40/55/65 + 110/120/130/140% base damage.
Skill 3: Don't like it, so I changed it completely. - Spoiler:
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Bi-Polar Flavor Text: Due to his unstable nature Juugo takes offense if his friends are attacked. Spell Type: Passive Buff Targets: Self
Mana Cost: N/A Cooldown: 0.0 seconds Radius: N/A Range: N/A Cast Time: 0.0 seconds Type: Spell Required Level:1/3/5/7
Activation: Each second Juugo isn't attacked he gains a bonus 0.75/1.25/1.75/2.25 Strength, with a maximum of 5/10/15/20 strength.
Skill 4: One second delay is not nearly enough, it needs to be more of a delay. Think about all High damage nukes in Dota or HoN. If the nuke is single target, there is no delay. If it's AoE there is a delay because of the potential to quickly deal burst damage. - Spoiler:
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Curse Seal Cannon Flavor Text: Juugo transforms into his second stage of the Cursed Seal, allowing him to fire powerful Chakra Cannons. Spell Type: Target Area Targets: Enemy Units
Mana Cost: 150 Cooldown: 120 seconds Radius: 350/375/400 Range: 1,200/1,350/1,500 Cast Time: 0.0 seconds Waitt: 0.75 seconds Type:Spell Required Level:6/11/16
Activation: After a 1.25 seconds channel, and 0.25 seconds wait time, Juugo fires his cannons to target area, dealing 25/35/45 damage every 0.50 seconds, slowing the move/attack speed of units within the target area by 25/35/45%, over 3 seconds.
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